Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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Is it justice to see elders in hot seat australia

by poopie in

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friends

now they no what it feels like to be on other side of the questions more fellow feeling now.

Brokeback Watchtower

Yes it is justice and it will be an even greater justice to see the Governing Body appear in some form of tribunal here is the United States of America.

The United States of America the 7th world power of bible prophecy according the the clowns called the Governing Body aka Faithful and oh so Discreet Slave to ancient superstitions about a blood hungry Deity who doesn't mind comping on a few animal sacrifices while wait for the main course called the world of mankind that doesn't not kiss his royal ass.

Their little glick they have found in this(freedom of religion and religious indoctrination with almost no bariors)system of things(world) is evaporating as mankind enters the information age just getting started.

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Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

by defender of truth in

with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

Brokeback Watchtower

Hey I think this inquiry thing might spread to many countries that are dealing with the same issues.

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Dr Applewhite and Child Abuse

by snare&racket in

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friends

i am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.

also the ease she has in making huge sweeping statements when comparing the jw's to all other international religious organisations simply undermines her professionalism.. i am also thoroughly shocked at her blatant, 'expert for hire', 'will defend anyone' apparent decision making, the organisation is responsible for covering up thousands of abuse victims by its own records, in australia alone!

never mind their judicial process being heartless and traumatic!.

Brokeback Watchtower

The Governing Body must be thinking boy pay this female a lot of money for her expert testimony and she is flubbing it royally I hoping we could get a refund or no tip for her.

I wonder if Tight Pants Tony likes her tight clothing which Jehovah finds disgusting representing his freakish viewpoints of right and wrong to the world.

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Branch Service Department Manual approves appointing Child molestors as Elders

by stuckinamovement in

http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=7ba22716-556c-43c2-9fc6-76697afad440&type=exhibit&filename=wat.0001.004.0076&fileextension=pdf

Brokeback Watchtower

Yes elders should ask but that doesn't neccesarily mean he won't be appointed in some case it was already known to the body to be such as case history shows: that a person has molested a child was reproved or df's got reinstated and work his way up to elder. So this question is doesn't specify disqualification.

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What are the possible end results from the RC?

by Bob Loblaw in

sorry if this has already been discussed, but,...besides, of course, a black eye on the org, what can come of this royal commission hearing legally or criminally?

according to the rc's website:.

"the royal commission holds formal public hearings to hear evidence about child sexual abuse within institutions.

Brokeback Watchtower

They will comply or be faced with "increased discipline" according to the RC. I'm sure "increased discipline" includes heavy fines.

"It’s important to remember that the Royal Commission is not a court of law and cannot make decisions about criminal matters. Rather, the Commissioners will deliver recommendations based on what they discover during a public hearing."

I'm sure all this discovery will bring up facts that can latter be used in a court of laws to put some behind bars and win big lawsuits in many counties around the world but especially in it's territories.

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How many of the 1.006 alleged abusers will be investigated by Police?

by Listener in

the commission has the names of 1,006 alleged abusers within australian congregations since 1950. some will have died and others will already have been prosecuted but the branch did not report any of these allegations to police.. the terms of reference for the royal commission is more about redress for the victims but that can include criminal prosecution although they are more focused on financial compensation.. however, now that they have the names of 1,006 potential criminals there is some responsibility to see that they are dealt with criminally.

it appears to be in their authority to have cases followed through by referring them for further investigation.

this is clear because the commissioner has recently reported that to date, they have done so in 493 cases identified within the scope of their commission.

Brokeback Watchtower

I sure the Commission will be notifying everyone connected with the those legal cases from 1950 onward many are dead from the very early ones but the more recent ones from the 80's 90's to today those are the ones that need treatment and compensation I think the commission will reach a big number.

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Do you feel vindicated by the exposure of the WT Society in Australia? It seems like a feeding frenzy on here! I love it. You?

by Wasanelder Once in

are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?

do you feel personally vindicated by it?

do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?

Brokeback Watchtower

I think Australia is gonna be saturated in apostate JWs boy will their committee rooms be busy disfellowshipping those who speak against the organization. NOT!!!

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Does the royal commission have the power to force the Jws to change how abuse is handled?

by hoser in

i'm wondering if this is just a hearing or if this commission has teeth?.

some very damning things coming out nonetheless .

Brokeback Watchtower

I'm sure the Commission will dutifully pass the word to each and every JW in their territory. And I think that an announcement might have to be made at their kingdom halls attended by members of the court might be in order a long with an announcements for victim to come fourth. I mean it only stand reasonable that each member should be informed and meet together some how to discuss these things.

I'm sure many JWs are already receiving counseling due to this investigation.

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Does the royal commission have the power to force the Jws to change how abuse is handled?

by hoser in

i'm wondering if this is just a hearing or if this commission has teeth?.

some very damning things coming out nonetheless .

Brokeback Watchtower

"Increased disciple" says it all if they don't comply they will be forced to maybe not this week but they will comply or else find out first hand what increase disciple legally means I'm sure the document composed of many pages will spell it out for them and they will comply.

And I'm sure the proper authorities in the USA are going to be informed what these jerks on the Governing Body are doing to their flock of sheep. The message is you got a destructive end of the world cult that need to be reined in for common decency for Christ's sake!

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Why are none of the 'Governing Body' being summoned to any of the abuse commissions?

by GodZoo in

i'm not sure if this has been covered but i'm wondering why none of the gb are being requested at or formally summoned to any of the australian abuse commissions or other investigations that are taking place around the world?

they after all are the ones single handedly responsible for making and enforcing all the rules that are the sole cause of all these abuses and problems.. why are they just keeping their silent distance and leaving all the ill-equipped and sadly incompetent local elders exposed to take the full public blast, criticism and humiliation for all that is now being brought out in these investigations?

how are they seemingly able to sit cosy in their ivory tower immune and unaccountable?.

Brokeback Watchtower

Maybe they might get a call to attend I'm "hoping" but if not then maybe after the investigation is finished maybe formal charges might come forth for a criminal trial which they might have to attend especially Loesch of any GB that has a definite connection with things that transpired in Australia.